Rudy Giuliani Is Now Essentially Admitting That Collusion Happened During the Campaign

He’s now essentially saying “sure, it happened during the election, but Trump wasn’t involved, and anyway, that Manafort guy was only the campaign manager for five months, so who cares?”

I wonder what’s coming later this week? Must be something for him to suddenly reappear and backpeddle like this.
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Imagine you’re a FBI Agent working Russian counterintelligence in 2016 and you witness the following:

I’ve been waiting for someone to do this. This started as a thread by Clint Watts that’s been rolled up by Thread Reader and reposted here in full for easy future reference.

– you witnessed Russian hackers targeting a wide swath of Americans including the DNC, DCCC, former Secretary of State & a Presidential candidates staff

– someone previously targeted by Russian Intelligence joins the Trump campaign and then appears on a stage in Moscow supporting Russia policy and speaking negatively of US policy

– A Presidential candidate hires a new campaign manager whose not been in the business in the states for years, but has been seen pushing a Russian agenda in Ukraine and has Russian intel contacts

– an Australian official contacts you and says the Russians have stolen emails of a Presidential candidate & may want to give them to the candidate’s competitor

– a Russian lawyer & others tied to Russian government visit a Presidential candidate’s son in the candidate’s building in NYC

– Candidate Trump stands on a stage and calls out Russia and asks about emails from his competitor, says they will be rewarded if they have them and release them

– website that’s released sensitive & classified documents from US for years, helped deliver a US insider to The Kremlin, begins publishing document & emails during Dem convention, content you know was stolen by Russia. Site administrator once hosted a TV show on Russia State TV

– A strange, unexpected policy change occurs at RNC convention, the change is a less supportive position toward Ukraine and is advantageous to Russia

– candidate’s campaign manager goes on CNN and asserts a false terrorist attack in Turkey, one tied to and advanced by Russian propaganda

– during this time, you watch a campaign associate tweet with a Russian account that’s pointing people to stolen documents from the opposing campaign. The campaign associate predicts something will happen to the opposing campaign manager- his emails are later released

– as Election Day approaches, Presidential candidate makes allegation, without evidence, voter Fraud & Election Rigging, Russia propaganda echoes this, social media accounts associated Kremlin do the same, at same time, you watch Russian Hackers hit state election infrastructure

– After election, current President issues sanctions against Russia, but the incoming National Security advisor makes calls to Russian officials from 3rd country, when approached for clarification post inauguration, the advisor lies about contents of phone call w/Russian officials

– During summer fall leading into the election, you receive raw intelligence from highly reliable source whose proven invaluable on other investigations. source provides intelligence on Russia’s efforts to support a presidential candidate, the info is consistent with other info

– Before inauguration your bosses, your leaders from all intelligence agencies brief president elect on classified info showing Russia influenced the election on behalf of President elect. President elect rejects intelligence from all your superiors and suggests Russia innocent

= From the summer of 2015 all the way through the election and after inauguration, you watch as the candidate, president elect and now president offers overt effusive support for Vladimir Putin who you know has been helping the President get elected.

– Shortly after inauguration, your new commander-in-chief spouts false information about Polish aggression toward Belarus. This is not supported by the Intelligence community you are in, and the only source for this viewpoint is Russian propaganda

– After firing of National Security Advisor that lies to you agencies investigators, the President corners your boss 1-1 asks him to go easy on National Security Advisor who lies about his conversation with Russians.



In case you’re wondering what “doing the right thing” looks like in politics, check out this from Doug Jones

Sen. Doug Jones (D-AL) — who pulled off a narrow win against ex-Alabama Judge Roy Moore in a special election last year — has asked the Federal Election Commission to look into reports on Democrats’ use of social media disinformation campaigns to help boost his election, The New York Times reported.

The Times has reported on at least two instances in which Democratic groups used fake social media accounts to help his campaign. Jones and his campaign reportedly did not know about the efforts at the time.

“Such deceptive tactics have no place in American politics and must be repudiated by those involved in our political system,” Jones wrote in a letter to the FEC, reviewed by the Times.

There is no innocent explanation for why a campaign manager would share polling data with people working on Putin’s behalf. C’mon y’all. Just stop.

Josh Marshall summarizes what we’ve learned.

…the seemingly accidental redaction error in the Manafort legal filing combined with the news published mid-evening by The New York Times is one of the biggest revelations in more than two years of the Trump/Russia scandal. It’s bigger than the Trump Tower meeting in June 2016, though the two cases can’t be fully understood without reference to each other. Just as importantly, these new revelations combined with earlier reports effectively end the debate about whether there was ‘collusion’ between Russia and the Trump campaign during the 2016 election. There was. It wasn’t marginal. It was happening at the very top of the campaign. The campaign manager was secretly funneling campaign data and information to a Russian oligarch closely tied to Russian President Vladimir Putin, someone who had no possible use for such information other than to use it in the Russian efforts to get Donald Trump elected President.Let’s review the key details

Source: The ‘Collusion’ Debate Ended Last Night – Talking Points Memo

There are no innocent explanations for why you would share these data. Internal polling data is the life’s blood of a campaign organization. It’s used primarily to craft messages and target outreach, and it’s always extraordinary closely held within the campaign. Even just knowing when and where an organization is polling is kept as secret as possible, since you can usually extrapolation from that to campaign strategy even without the data itself. So for Gates and Manafort to give this to Team Russia while Team Russia was attacking our electoral system…..

It all happened. That’s the conspiracy, not this effort to expose the truth. It all happened.

Trump Campaign Manager shared polling data with Russian Intelligence

No collusion! Witch Hunt! And anyway, everyone shares internal polling data with agents of hostile foreign intelligence services while those services are conducting attacks on our electoral system. Everyone knows that, yeah?

Paul Manafort shared 2016 presidential campaign polling data with Konstantin Kilimnik, an associate the FBI has said has ties to Russian intelligence, according to a court filing.

The information is in a filing that appears to inadvertently include details not intended to be made public and indicates a pathway by which the Russians could have had access to Trump campaign data.

The former Trump campaign chairman on Tuesday denied in a filing from his defense team that he broke his plea deal by lying repeatedly to prosecutors working for special counsel Robert S. Mueller III about that and other issues.

In his rebuttal to the special counsel’s claims of dishonesty, Manafort exposed details of the dispute, much of which centers on his relationship with Kilimnik. The Russian citizen, who began working for Manafort’s consulting firm starting in 2005, has been charged with helping his former boss to obstruct Mueller’s investigation of Russian interference into the 2016 election. He is believed to be in Moscow.

The special counsel alleged Manafort “lied about sharing polling data with Mr. Kilimnik related to the 2016 presidential campaign,” according to the unredacted filing. The source of that data, including whether it came from the Trump campaign, is unclear.

According to the court filing, the special counsel also accused Manafort of lying about discussing a Ukrainian peace plan with Kilimnik during the 2016 campaign.

“Manafort ‘conceded’ that he discussed or may have discussed a Ukraine peace plan with Mr. Kilimnik on more than one occasion,” his attorneys quote the special counsel as saying, and “’acknowledged’ that he and Mr. Kilimnik met while they were both in Madrid,” without giving a date.

Bernie apologizes, says he “wasn’t aware” of the sexism that ran rampant in his campaign. Apparently he’s also not aware of Google?

When I say “Bernie Bro,” you think….

Literally everyone who follows politics was aware of the claim that the “Bernie Bros” were sexist by the end of the campaign. There’s no way he wasn’t aware. Or rather, not way that’s even remotely a defense of the organization and “movement” that he led. He’d have to have been extraordinarily out of touch to not have.

Wait….hang on. This took me about 60 seconds to find using the Google Machine:

Bill Clinton rips Sanders backers’ ‘sexist,’ ‘profane’ attacks

Bill Clinton lashed out at “sexist” and “profane” attacks on Hillary Clinton and her supporters by proponents of Bernie Sanders, and accused them of harassing those who don’t back the Vermont senator’s campaign or disagree with his policies.

Speaking in New Hampshire on Sunday, Clinton delivered an extended rebuke of the Sanders supporters, whom he said subject people who back his wife to “vicious trolling.

So what…I’m supposed to believe that he wasn’t aware of the fact that former President Bill Clinton called him out for this exact thing just days before the New Hampshire primary. Because a campaign that allows this sort of thing to go on among its most vocal supporters is always going to have similar problems inside its campaign staff. Always. This is one of those “fish rots from the head” sorts of problems that our ridiculous methods of electioneering are actually pretty good at exposing.

And this is just the first article I found in an incredibly quick Google search. There are more, many more, where that came from. So….either he’s lying or he’s trying to pretend like the two things are not connected. And neither of those choices improves his position.

Sources: Sanders Apologizes, Says He Wasn’t Aware Of Sexism Within His Campaign – Talking Points MemoBill Clinton rips Sanders backers’ ‘sexist,’ ‘profane’ attacks