It’s Roger’s time in the barrel!

CNBC offers a quick summary that include an appearance by Bannon!

Trump associate Roger Stone arrested on 7 counts, including lying to Congress, in special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe

• Roger Stone, a longtime political advisor to President Trump, has been arrested in Florida.

• Stone faces seven counts, including witness tampering, obstruction of justice and making false statements to Congress.

• The indictment alleges that Stone had been in contact with top-ranking Trump campaign officials about efforts to leak damaging information about Hillary Clinton just before the 2016 election.

• According to a person with direct knowledge of the matter, one of the senior officials who reached out to Stone was Steve Bannon, who served as CEO of the Trump campaign during the election’s final stages.

“The Trump Tower Moscow discussions were ‘going on from the day I announced to the day I won,’Giuliani quoted Trump as saying”

Here’s how the NYT wraps it up–what must the truth be that they are now admitting this to the public?!?

WASHINGTON — President Trump was involved in discussions to build a skyscraper in Moscow throughout the entire 2016 presidential campaign, his personal lawyer said on Sunday, a longer and more significant role for Mr. Trump than he had previously acknowledged.

The comments by his lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani indicated that Mr. Trump’s efforts to complete a business deal in Russia waned only after Americans cast ballots in the presidential election.

The new timetable means that Mr. Trump was seeking a deal at the time he was calling for an end to economic sanctions against Russia imposed by the Obama administration. He was seeking a deal when he gave interviews questioning the legitimacy of NATO, a favorite talking point of President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia. And he was seeking a deal when, in July 2016, he called on Russia to release hacked Democratic emails that Mr. Putin’s government was rumored at the time to have stolen.


The central issue is now clear: “the post-2014 sanctions against Russia had to be lifted before the (Trump Tower Moscow) deal could be finalized.”

Josh Marshall gets it:

“…throughout 2016 Trump was trying to finalize a deal to build a Trump Tower in Moscow from which he believed he’d reap hundreds of millions in profits over the coming years.

Again, whether and how he lied about it is legally interesting. But that’s the cover-up rather than the thing itself. That deal was with sanctioned individuals and sanctioned banks. Whether it was even legal to be entering into the negotiations is not clear to me. But certainly the post-2014 sanctions against Russia had to be lifted before the deal could be finalized. That is the central issue. It’s not simply that Trump had “business” with Russia and deceived the public about it during the campaign and after. It’s more specific and direct. Why was Trump so solicitous of Russia and Vladimir Putin during the campaign? Well, a lot of possible reasons. But a major and likely the major reason was because Putin was dangling a multi-hundreds of millions of dollars payday in front of him. That’s a big incentive, especially for Donald Trump.

To get that money, Trump had to court Putin and he’d eventually need to lift sanctions against him.”


And this all makes perfect sense if you assume that they believed they would lose the election. In fact, Trump has explicitly told us as much. His words, from back on November 29, 2018:

we were very open with it. We were thinking about building a building. I guess we had — in a form, it was an option. I don’t know what you’d call it. We decided — I decided ultimately not to do it. There would have been nothing wrong if I did do it. If I did do it, there would have been nothing wrong. That was my business.


I was running my business while I was campaigning. There was a good chance that I wouldn’t have won, in which case I would have gotten back into the business. And why should I lose lots of opportunities?

He was just keeping his options open, after all. Who among us hasn’t negotiated with sanctioned individuals to conduct a real estate deal in a country also sanctioned for, among other things, seeking to undermine our electoral opponents during that very same election in which we were running. It’s all so commonplace and within the bounds of normal political behavior. You see it every day, am I right?!?

I get it. The ins and outs of this scandal are incredibly complicated, so much so that most people just have no way to keep up without make sense of it all. But if you do, it’s all there ain’t as day:

Trump was happy to have Putin muck about in our election, so long as in the end he got his real estate deal. He never thought he would win. It was never about that. And then he did, and he was screwed. He almost had no choice by to try to cover it up. But then it turned out he wasn’t the only grifter at the top of the food chain; Gen. Flynn, among others, went and screwed the whole thing up. And so here we are.

It’s like 2006 all over again. If you’re paying attention, the war has already been lost. Most people aren’t. Most people are only just about to figure it out. And when they do, they’ll try to pretend like they never supported the damn thing in the first place.

Don’t. Let. Them. Get. Away. With. It. This. Time.

Just don’t.

Giuliani now admits Trump Tower Moscow negotiations continued thru the election.

Mueller already knows this, of course, which among a variety of things means he has Don Jr dead to rights on perjury. Oops.

In an interview Sunday on NBC’s Meet the Press, Rudy Giuliani said conversations extended as far as October or November of 2016 — precisely around the time Donald Trump was elected president. If accurate, Giuliani’s comments dramatically extend the timeline of the business dealings behind the now-defunct plans to build Trump Tower Moscow, plans which have drawn questions about possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian officials.

Until recently, talks led by former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen were believed to have ended in June 2016. Now it appears they actually took several more months to “peter out.” 

Asked by NBC News host Chuck Todd clarify the timeline of negotiations, Giuliani said he didn’t have exact dates, but thought it was around the time of the election.

So while Putin was trying to help Trump get elected, Trump was trying to negotiate a deal with Putin’s people that would bet him and his family millions of dollars, all while lying to the American people about it. I see.

Rudy Giuliani Is Now Essentially Admitting That Collusion Happened During the Campaign

He’s now essentially saying “sure, it happened during the election, but Trump wasn’t involved, and anyway, that Manafort guy was only the campaign manager for five months, so who cares?”

I wonder what’s coming later this week? Must be something for him to suddenly reappear and backpeddle like this.
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Imagine you’re a FBI Agent working Russian counterintelligence in 2016 and you witness the following:

I’ve been waiting for someone to do this. This started as a thread by Clint Watts that’s been rolled up by Thread Reader and reposted here in full for easy future reference.

– you witnessed Russian hackers targeting a wide swath of Americans including the DNC, DCCC, former Secretary of State & a Presidential candidates staff

– someone previously targeted by Russian Intelligence joins the Trump campaign and then appears on a stage in Moscow supporting Russia policy and speaking negatively of US policy

– A Presidential candidate hires a new campaign manager whose not been in the business in the states for years, but has been seen pushing a Russian agenda in Ukraine and has Russian intel contacts

– an Australian official contacts you and says the Russians have stolen emails of a Presidential candidate & may want to give them to the candidate’s competitor

– a Russian lawyer & others tied to Russian government visit a Presidential candidate’s son in the candidate’s building in NYC

– Candidate Trump stands on a stage and calls out Russia and asks about emails from his competitor, says they will be rewarded if they have them and release them

– website that’s released sensitive & classified documents from US for years, helped deliver a US insider to The Kremlin, begins publishing document & emails during Dem convention, content you know was stolen by Russia. Site administrator once hosted a TV show on Russia State TV

– A strange, unexpected policy change occurs at RNC convention, the change is a less supportive position toward Ukraine and is advantageous to Russia

– candidate’s campaign manager goes on CNN and asserts a false terrorist attack in Turkey, one tied to and advanced by Russian propaganda

– during this time, you watch a campaign associate tweet with a Russian account that’s pointing people to stolen documents from the opposing campaign. The campaign associate predicts something will happen to the opposing campaign manager- his emails are later released

– as Election Day approaches, Presidential candidate makes allegation, without evidence, voter Fraud & Election Rigging, Russia propaganda echoes this, social media accounts associated Kremlin do the same, at same time, you watch Russian Hackers hit state election infrastructure

– After election, current President issues sanctions against Russia, but the incoming National Security advisor makes calls to Russian officials from 3rd country, when approached for clarification post inauguration, the advisor lies about contents of phone call w/Russian officials

– During summer fall leading into the election, you receive raw intelligence from highly reliable source whose proven invaluable on other investigations. source provides intelligence on Russia’s efforts to support a presidential candidate, the info is consistent with other info

– Before inauguration your bosses, your leaders from all intelligence agencies brief president elect on classified info showing Russia influenced the election on behalf of President elect. President elect rejects intelligence from all your superiors and suggests Russia innocent

= From the summer of 2015 all the way through the election and after inauguration, you watch as the candidate, president elect and now president offers overt effusive support for Vladimir Putin who you know has been helping the President get elected.

– Shortly after inauguration, your new commander-in-chief spouts false information about Polish aggression toward Belarus. This is not supported by the Intelligence community you are in, and the only source for this viewpoint is Russian propaganda

– After firing of National Security Advisor that lies to you agencies investigators, the President corners your boss 1-1 asks him to go easy on National Security Advisor who lies about his conversation with Russians.



In case you’re wondering what “doing the right thing” looks like in politics, check out this from Doug Jones

Sen. Doug Jones (D-AL) — who pulled off a narrow win against ex-Alabama Judge Roy Moore in a special election last year — has asked the Federal Election Commission to look into reports on Democrats’ use of social media disinformation campaigns to help boost his election, The New York Times reported.

The Times has reported on at least two instances in which Democratic groups used fake social media accounts to help his campaign. Jones and his campaign reportedly did not know about the efforts at the time.

“Such deceptive tactics have no place in American politics and must be repudiated by those involved in our political system,” Jones wrote in a letter to the FEC, reviewed by the Times.